She was just talking with John Burgess on ACA. Burgess was asking what she was going to do about the pittance that pensioners were living on.
She said, paraphrased, that 'lectricity is going to rise more and, when the ETS comes in pensioners will find that they will get more money back.
My Aunt and Mum were discussing the plight of pensioners with the cost of electricity rising all the time. My Aunt pointed out that pensioners living as they do on very limited income, would cut back on their electricity usage - I read recently about pensioners who think they're saving money on electricity by turning off their hot water systems, and I've heard of pensioners turning off their water to their hot water system to keep their bills down. There are problems with these practices.