LEIGH SALES: OK. Let's set aside that issue, because I think that that is a very separate issue to the way in which you are implementing the stimulus package. We've seen a $1.5 billion blowout in the primary schools infrastructure program and we've seen the Australian Electoral Commission now rule that the thousands of signs that you've put up at schools basically amount to political advertisements. Kevin Rudd acknowledged this week that there are problems with the stimulus implementation. How many more such problems await us down the track?Keep reading, it's a beauty!
WAYNE SWAN: Well, Leigh, there will always be some problems around the edges of any massive investment program such as this one. But this school modernisation program has been a spectacular success; a success in terms of creating employment and bringing confidence to the economy. It is going to leave a lasting legacy in our educational system and it's a very important part of the education revolution. And to trivialise that achievement by making some of the statements that Joe Hockey and Mr Turnbull has made means they don't even understand the problem.
LEIGH SALES: So as Treasurer, do you consider a $1.5 billion blowout to be a success?